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Thunder Slot Lola T70 CAN AM

Postby scatman » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:53 pm

Gentlemen, I received both CAN AM cars and I give them two thumbs up. You can find them for as low as $85. Clover Leaf will have them Sept 18th.
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Re: Thunder Slot Lola T70 CAN AM

Postby waaytoomuchintothis » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:27 pm

Does anyone know why Thunderslot asks double prices? Who are these guys?
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Re: Thunder Slot Lola T70 CAN AM

Postby Brumos RSR » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:04 am

They manufacture one of the fastest out the box racing slot cars that I've purchased. With tire truing, ride height adjustment and loosing the pod screws.
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Re: Thunder Slot Lola T70 CAN AM

Postby HomeRacingWorld » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:31 am

Yes, they are nice. Have mine coming. But the significant price increase over the first release is simply not worth it to me. To others it might.
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Re: Thunder Slot Lola T70 CAN AM

Postby Mayberryman » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:47 am

Brumos RSR wrote:They manufacture one of the fastest out the box racing slot cars that I've purchased. With tire truing, ride height adjustment and loosing the pod screws.


Sir, I agree that they are good out of the box racing cars, however, that is if you run no mag. I run both and I have one of the original Lola Coupes. If you run magnet racing the chassis is too soft to stand up to the 220 Gr limit my club sets and thus the reason for the harder chassis and motor mount, yet another cost. On a no mag racing condition I would but the Lola a little ahead of the Sideways GP 5s and a little slower than a properly set up Avant Mirage. Yes, I agree that the Lola is on par with these front runners but the increase in cost is a factor.
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Re: Thunder Slot Lola T70 CAN AM

Postby Cincyslots » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:26 am

Aren't they a spin off, so to speak, of NSR? That would explain the price. Great looking cars though.

In my experience, once the price goes over $44.99 the sales go down........
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Re: Thunder Slot Lola T70 CAN AM

Postby Czar » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:36 am

A lot of manufacturers, in many industries, will have a "loss leader" to introduce new products. They give a discount price and entice potential customers to discover what a particular company can produce. They might lose a few dollars in the process, but the increased "word of mouth" advertising - at no cost to them will be re-couped with future sales and the name will be established without spending a lot of money. This is probably what is happening at Thunderslot. They certainly have received a lot of positive buzz with their lower priced offering. It will be interesting to see how successful this campaign is. But, their cars are apparently on a par, quality wise, with NSR cars that are also at that price point, and manufactured in Italy too. I'm not really interested in the T-Slot Lolas. I have nine Fly Lola coupes that are lovely little cars (as we all know), but the real deal breaker is "fastest slot car out of the box". Lolas can never compete with modern LMP machines, but now we have a car from the '70s that can beat them on our race tracks! Maybe we need to re-think the whole notion of what "scale racing" means and how toys like this fit into the bigger picture. It is not just a price point, or fast motor, that makes a car worth having.
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Re: Thunder Slot Lola T70 CAN AM

Postby scatman » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:05 am

I could not believe the price at first,(P.M. $102) but Electric Dreams $86 when I ordered the car. Now the price is over a $100. Clover Leaf is still at $85.
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Re: Thunder Slot Lola T70 CAN AM

Postby MacMoose » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:24 am

Prices are either cost determined or demand determined. That is, costs + desired profit margin or b) how much can I charge before no one wants it?
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Re: Thunder Slot Lola T70 CAN AM

Postby gascarnut » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:47 am

Czar wrote:Lolas can never compete with modern LMP machines, but now we have a car from the '70s that can beat them on our race tracks!


This only happens if you put both types of car on the track at the same time. A little sensible class definition will eliminate this criticism.

Group the Thunderslot cars with NSR classics and some Slot.it classics, and there is little to no performance disparity.
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Re: Thunder Slot Lola T70 CAN AM

Postby Dewman51 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:12 am

One sure way to ruin a sport or hobby is to increase the price until only a few will keep buying!! I hope the companies like Carrara and Scalectric and a few others keep making the cars the way they have been and at reasonable prices. They look nice ,run well, and have enough detail for me -- after all you can only see so much when it's going around the track. If I need the car to go faster I can tune it as much as I want to spend . I know I must sound like a cheap skate but that's the way it is. I'd rather buy a bunch of slower cheaper priced cars than one really fast one.
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Re: Thunder Slot Lola T70 CAN AM

Postby hksk25 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:29 am

What he :text-goodpost: said. We have GREAT racing with $35 Carrera cars. Most home tracks are not big enough to take advantage of these cars.

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Re: Thunder Slot Lola T70 CAN AM

Postby waaytoomuchintothis » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:10 pm

Well, this all answers my question. Its hard to believe that people can go to the trouble of creating a manufacturing plant, market the product in today's insane business world, and a hundred other hurdles to hop over, then drop the ball completely by overestimating what consumers will pay, and disregarding completely the intrinsic worth of the object that is for sale. As long as there are scratchbuilders, the RTR cars can be ignored if price-gouging occurs. Ninco learned that the hard way, and they still haven't recovered. If you look back at the slot car era in the 1960s, there were outfits then who tried to drive prices up. They all failed of course, but more importantly, they damaged the hobby, and for decades it was anyone's guess as to whether the hobby would always be basement dwellers only. Home racing, eh?

And yes, Carrera, Scaley and some smaller outfits are holding the line, making money and doing well- because they do what they are good at and charge a fee that is reasonable for that product. Its that simple. And think of the world-wide customer loyalty these guys have because of it.

I have never enjoyed super-stupid-fast cars that I can barely see on the track at speed, nor the things that don't even look like cars that are usually with them, but they, even though rather expensive, are a hobby unto themselves and constitute no threat to our hobby, so good, I hope they have fun. Home Racing World. That's us.
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Re: Thunder Slot Lola T70 CAN AM

Postby GPCruisr » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:35 pm

Dewman51 wrote:One sure way to ruin a sport or hobby is to increase the price until only a few will keep buying!! I hope the companies like Carrara and Scalectric and a few others keep making the cars the way they have been and at reasonable prices. They look nice ,run well, and have enough detail for me -- after all you can only see so much when it's going around the track. If I need the car to go faster I can tune it as much as I want to spend . I know I must sound like a cheap skate but that's the way it is. I'd rather buy a bunch of slower cheaper priced cars than one really fast one.


You get what you pay for. Scalextric and Carrera make great cars that race really well against each other at a great price. SlotIt at about $20 more than the Carrera (but only about $10 more than a Scalextric) comes with rear metal wheels, a better motor, more flexibility for gear ratio changes, and a podded motor mount. NSRs and Thunderslots add all that and then some (all metal wheels). Where I race, we like to race the Carrera's out of the box (with a swap of silicone tires) and we run that on a plastic track. But for out wood track, we like to use cars that are easily configurable and come with upgraded parts than what you find on the lower priced Scalextric and Carreras. Consequently, the higher price makes sense in that arena.
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Re: Thunder Slot Lola T70 CAN AM

Postby Mayberryman » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:41 pm

GPCruisr wrote:
Dewman51 wrote:One sure way to ruin a sport or hobby is to increase the price until only a few will keep buying!! I hope the companies like Carrara and Scalectric and a few others keep making the cars the way they have been and at reasonable prices. They look nice ,run well, and have enough detail for me -- after all you can only see so much when it's going around the track. If I need the car to go faster I can tune it as much as I want to spend . I know I must sound like a cheap skate but that's the way it is. I'd rather buy a bunch of slower cheaper priced cars than one really fast one.


You get what you pay for. Scalextric and Carrera make great cars that race really well against each other at a great price. SlotIt at about $20 more than the Carrera (but only about $10 more than a Scalextric) comes with rear metal wheels, a better motor, more flexibility for gear ratio changes, and a podded motor mount. NSRs and Thunderslots add all that and then some (all metal wheels). Where I race, we like to race the Carrera's out of the box (with a swap of silicone tires) and we run that on a plastic track. But for out wood track, we like to use cars that are easily configurable and come with upgraded parts than what you find on the lower priced Scalextric and Carreras. Consequently, the higher price makes sense in that arena.


To me a competitive race is the best, whether the racers are turning 5 second or 7 second laps the real enjoyment is the close door to door racing, lap after lap. Last Saturday The Barn Burners Slot Car Club had an official race with three classes being run. Vintage NASCAR, NASCAR and Trans Am. In the vintage NASCAR, after ten minutes of racing I was beat out by five feet for the win. In the NASCAR, I won by two laps after five minutes 122 laps to 120 laps. In the Trans AM, again after ten minutes of racing the first place car beat the second place car by five feet. To be completely honest I find the slower classes more fun as it gives a larger percentage of drivers the ability to be competitive. In our Can Am class we have an open motor rule and 240 GR of magnetic attraction and the cars turn laps in the 3.4 to 3.8 range and you will see more difference in the finishing order normally.

I am a firm believer that Carrera has become a leader in 1/32 Plastic Chassis racing as far as giving us a great product with good detail, a car that runs good out of the box, mag or no mag and a car that stands up to the bashing of racing. I will enter this year with my three year old Corvette C 6 as one of my front line Carrera GT cars.
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