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2020 SCCA Proxy - Current Situation and Information

Postby Audi1 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:29 pm

There seems to have been a good amount of interest in this year's 2019 SCCA Proxy.

It certainly was a closely fought battle at the top with 9 points separating the top 3 cars after 10 Rounds of racing - that's close.

It's also one of the few opportunities that we have to build and race some of the cars that were around when some of us were kids...……….

So, if there's interest in a 2020 SCCA Proxy, then I think we should consider it seriously and prepare to have some more fun!

Unfortunately, I won't be able to be the race director for the 2020 series; just too much going on at this time for me to be able to handle that. But, if there is a person, or a group of persons, who would like to carry this proxy forward, then the good news is that most of the work has already been done for you; if you're willing to have the 2020 series be similar to the 2019 series.

For example, the Rules are already drafted. They can certainly be modified, as needed, and any future race director or race director team would be free to do that. But, just to show you what's already done, here are the Rules and Registration Sign-Up details from last year:

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Overview:

This is a proxy race series for the cars that ran in SCCA events from 1951-1965. Those include cars that competed in the SCCA National Sports Car Championship (1951-64) and the first 3 years of the SCCA United States Road Racing Championship, which ran 1963-68. There were some great cars in this timeframe. We plan to run the cars as if they were all SCCA National Sports Car Championship entries; with two Divisions - Production and Modified, and several classes based on motor displacement; AP, BP, CP, etc. and AM, BM, CM, etc. We are fortunate that Thompson (studioRS) is willing to make up an SCCA decal sheet for us which will have all of the Division and Class decals on them, as well as some neat period sponsor decals (see more on this below). Based on the availability of this decal sheet, all entries will bear the Division and Class of the car as it ran, or would have run, in the SCCA National Sports Car Championship. We are limiting this event to a total of 40 racers; 20 in the Production Division and 20 in the Modified Division (see more on this below).


With that in mind, this proxy series does have some minimum Rules. PLEASE READ THEM THOROUGHLY!

The Proxy Event:

Concourse: The first event at The River Run will have a Concourse judging event. This event is an important and fun part of this proxy race because it recognizes the efforts and model-making of each entry and recognizes the raw beauty of these cars in 1/32 scale. Please make every effort to make your car look like it would have back in the day!!!

The Concourse will be voted upon by the volunteer drivers that will be attending the first race at The River Run. The cars will be judged on paint and appearance, assembly, realism, and their vintage flair.

Race Format: Finishing order for each round of the proxy race and the entire series will be determined by distance covered. This is based on laps driven within a set amount of time.

A minimum of 3 minutes racing time per car per lane is required at each track.

Each car is to be raced in a fair and equal manner and subject to the same track conditions. Lane and driver rotations to be determined by track host.

Winner of each race based on total distance traveled with points awarded base on the number of cars in the race. For example, in a 20 car field, the winner gets 20 points, second place gets 19, etc.

Tracks: This series will run at different 10 tracks; all in the US; in keeping with the spirit of the original SCCA races. All tracks will be routed wood.

Track voltage will be set between 10-12 volts at the host’s discretion and shall be equal for all cars.

Registration Fee: The Registration Fee is $25 per entry ($20 entry fee and $5 for an SCCA decal sheet) which will be mailed to each registered racer at least two months prior to the due date for the cars. Entrants are limited to one car for this series. It can be either a Production or a Modified Division car. This fee is due by July 1, 2018. Payment by PayPal is preferred to: apjarvis@aol.com

Due Date: All entries are due at the first track in the series – The River Run, by September 30, 2018. Shipping address is:

Allan Jarvis
46 River Road
Merrimac, MA 01860
USA

Racing Start Date: The first race of the series is planned to be run by September 30th and all hosts are asked to stick to a maximum of 3 weeks from the time of receipt of the cars to mailing them on to the next host track. Faster than that is definitely better! With this timing, the entire series should be completed in less than 6 months.

Sign-Up and Waiting List: The series is limited to 40 total cars. Position on the Sign-up sheet will be on a first come – first served basis. Those who sign up after the 40 slots are filled will be put on a Waiting List. As of July 15, any racer on the Sign-Up list who has not paid his Registration Fee may have his slot taken by a racer from the Waiting List who does pay his Registration Fee. The mechanism for moving up from the Waiting List to the Sign-up List will be based on the last number racer on the Sign-Up list who has not paid his Registration Fee being vulnerable to the first number racer on the Waiting List who has paid his Registration Fee, and so forth. The reason for the July 1 Registration Fee deadline is to give races who move up from the Waiting List time to build and tune their entries.

Prizes: There WILL be prizes awarded; for both the top 3 places in the Concourse; for the top 3 places in the Production Division and for the top 3 places in the Modified Division. All prizes TBD at this time.


The Proxy Rules:

Eligible Cars: ANY car that participated in at least one race in the SCCA National Sports Car Championship or the United States Road Racing Championship series during the period 1951-1965. The best place to check out qualifying cars is on the Racing Sports Car (http://www.racingsportscars.com) website. There you will find the championship series; each of the races by year and all of the car entered in each race. If you have questions about a particular car that you are not clear on, then contact the Proxy Coordinator, Allan Jarvis (Audi1)

Body: ANY injection moulded, resin cast or 3D printed body in 1/32 scale.

No changes to wheel wells allowed and no body lowering that gives the car a “slammed” look.
Lightweight interiors allowed, but must be 3 dimensional and painted to show drivers head, shoulders, arms, steering wheel and dash, and a roll bar.
Entrant’s name must be noted on underside of car as well as instructions for body float adjustments, if any.
Car numbers must be unique; no duplicate numbers. Numbers will be reserved on a first come – first served basis.
Tires must fit fully under the fenders. Tires may NOT project beyond body work when viewed from above.
Clear window material must be present on both windshield and rear window on enclosed cockpit cars and as a windscreen on open cockpit cars and may be vacuum formed.
Bodies must be removable to allow inspection and photography prior to the first race, if needed, and to allow maintenance and repair during the race series.

Chassis: ANY chassis that is stock, aftermarket, scratch built, or 3D printed using any material, is eligible.

Podded or non-podded chassis allowed
Inline / sidewinder / anglewinder configurations all OK
Underside of car chassis and body must clear track road surface, on level track, by 1.5mm minimum (clearance).
Guide must be entirely under body, and NOT visible when viewed from above.
Traction magnets are NOT permitted.
Bearing-type of axle bushings are NOT permitted.
All chassis MUST be mounted like an RTR car - meaning screws through the chassis to body mounting points and no pins THROUGH the body, Velcro, etc. However, a chassis with side mounts such as the HRS/HSR-2 can be used - as long as the pins do NOT go through the body.

Gears: ANY stock or aftermarket gears and ratios of your choice may be used.

Motor: There are two spec motors for this proxy; an FC can and an FF slimline. The spec. FC motor is the H&R Hawk (manufacturer's spec. = 18,000 rpm / 140 g.cm torque / 6.3 Watts). The spec FF motor is the Policar PMX01 (manufacturer's spec. = 25,000 rpm / 95 g.com torque / 6.0 Watts). These are the preferred motors for this proxy. However, if these motors are not available to an entrant, then ANY commercially available FC-130 or FF-050 motor may be used; as long as it's manufacturer's specs do not exceed BOTH the rpm and torque specs. for the two spec. motors. If the manufacturer's specs are not readily and routinely available for a given motor, then it is not legal for this series.

Motors may not be opened or modified in any way versus the stock commercially available motor; external capacitors may be removed

Wheels: ANY Plastic or aluminum wheels not larger than 15x8mm may be used.

Wheels must have period inserts or look reasonably period for the car - no BBS or blank aluminum insert wheels please.

Tires: ANY Rubber or Urethane tires not wider than 8mm shoulder-to-shoulder (total tire width) may be used.

No chemicals or oil-based preparation is allowed.
Tires are measured inner to outer sidewall; not just the contact patch
Tires may be cleaned in any manner prior to shipping them to the first race.
Nail polish or clear coating of front tires is allowed.
No 0-ring tires on the front, but front tires may be profiled

Inspection and Repairs: A running inspection of cars is to be made before and after each race. Cars may be cleaned, lubricated and the braids may be adjusted, as needed. The only tire cleaning allowed is tape rolling and non-chemical liquids such as water. Minor adjustments may be made prior to the car being raced without penalty. If a car breaks during a race the track host may repair that car but the car will have a 3 lap penalty assessed against it for that Round. If a major repair is required, the track host will contact the car's owner to determine if the damaged car should be sent home for repair between races. This will be done at the car owner's expense. Car is to be forwarded to the next event by the owner and at the owner's expense.

Hosts: If you would like to host - please contact Audi1 here on the forum. You must be a member in good standing before we can consider you. This is to protect both HRW, the Proxy itself, as well as the car owners.
A picture and a description of the particulars of your track must be posted in the soon to be posted "2018 SCCA Proxy - Track"s thread
Rules for Track Hosts will be sent to each host well in advance of their Round.

Car and Track Visuals: Hosts will need to provide pictures of the following during your Round:

Pictures of the full field of cars on your track
Pictures of the top three winners on your track (the start/finish line is a great idea)
A spreadsheet of the results sent to Audi1 within 24 hours of the actual race so official updates can be made
Video and/or live streaming is encouraged but not required.


Registration

Modified Division

(Racer / Car / Class / Number)

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Similarly, we had 10 good tracks in the 2019 season; I think that all of the hosts had a good time running these cars and I suspect that many, if not all of them, would be willing to re-up for the 2020 season, if contacted by PM and asked.

Here is the track list for the 2019 series:

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Here's a thread for the tracks that we'll be using for the upcoming SCCA Proxy.

There will be a total of 10 races; all on routed wood tracks. Since the SCCA races were US-based, I'm trying to keep all of the races within the lower 48. We'll see how that works out.

I'll also ask each track host to post a pic of their track and describe what their regular racing conditions are; length, surface, voltage, etc.

1. The River Run - Audi1 (MA) - mid-October

2. Cornerstone Raceway - mether05 (MA) - early November

3. Rockledge Raceway - doubl-B (CT) - late November

4. Amoskeag North Racing Park - manchvegasracer (NH) - mid-December

5. Woody Monster - Mark (GA) - mid-January

6. Red Sands Raceway. - Tony (GA) - early February

7. Herman P. Finklemeyer Memorial Raceway - Pappy (OH) - late February

8. Cloverleaf Racing - Oscar Racing (Cloverleaf Racing store track) (MI) - mid-March

9. Pebblestone Model Car Circuit - gascarnut (CA) - early April

10. Penguin Point - kidvoltage (OR) - late April

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So, there you have it; a proxy in "ready-to-go" form.

I hope someone, or some group of someones, will pick up the 2020 SCCA Proxy - as I said above, they're fun cars both to build and to race!

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Re: 2020 SCCA Proxy - Current Situation and Information

Postby Dodgefarmer » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:15 pm

So we are staying with the Policar slimcan motor?

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Re: 2020 SCCA Proxy - Current Situation and Information

Postby Audi1 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:19 am

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Re: 2020 SCCA Proxy - Current Situation and Information

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Re: 2020 SCCA Proxy - Current Situation and Information

Postby glasshorsevh » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:10 am

The 67 Elva was only present for three races in 2019, so, I’d like to work on it’s handling issues and send it back in for 2020. It was running a Scaley Red Can motor rated at 21k. Don’t really know how it stood up with the Policar, but I assume it should be legal whatever is decided. I also still have about 1/2 the MG completed (number 51) and all going to plan......?

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Re: 2020 SCCA Proxy - Current Situation and Information

Postby BARC 1 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:09 pm

First off Alan, thank you very much for the past years handling of all the proxies that were run. You did an amazing job to kickstart the vast majority of races I entered,and I just have to give you a big nod of appreciation for this.

I will be waiting in the wings with a scratchbuilt Lotus 23c shell and chassis. I will repower with the Policar slimcan. I am hoping someone picks up the ball and runs with it.
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Re: 2020 SCCA Proxy - Current Situation and Information

Postby alexis in greece » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:26 am

Thank you Alan for your efforts,i wouldvery much like to be in a position to take over but personal problems prevent me even from preparing cars for proxies i entered (Can Am).Anyway if SCCA proxy restarts i will be in with the same cars with some improvements
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Re: 2020 SCCA Proxy - Current Situation and Information

Postby charlesx@xtra.co.nz » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:22 pm

Hi Audi1 and all. I am in but would prefer to stay with Policar motor. It is often too much of a lottery with other motors unless you get in with a tested one-off hand-out motor. Recent problems or concerns with Tasman Cup are an example. Will certainly be re-building my Lotus 30 but hope to still retain the Slotting Plus motor pod and angle winder configuration. If not would probably go for an inline as I have a modified Slot-it pod ready to go. Please let us know what is happening with car returns when you can. Regards Chas Le Breton (charlesx)
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