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How do oval racing event compensate for lane length?

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Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:25 pm
by Abarth Mike

To a novice it would appear that the inside lane has an advantage as it is shorter but I'll go with one of the middle lanes, say blue. How to you guys handicap the racing?
Re: How do oval racing event compensate for lane length?

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Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:27 pm
by HomeRacingWorld
Just use lane rotation. No handicap.
Everyone runs all the lanes and does the best they can on each.
At least that is how we have always done it, and still do.
Re: How do oval racing event compensate for lane length?

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Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:46 pm
by Abarth Mike
I realized that would be the answer but doesn't that make for a long night, if there are lots of competitors? Each heat is 6 races, each final is six races. I have been thinking about an oval for years for laps and beer, but actual racing?
Re: How do oval racing event compensate for lane length?

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Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:51 am
by DixonJohn
Each driver runs each lane. Set your heat time at say TWO minutes with maybe a minute, minute and a half between each heat for cool off and minor repairs. Whan all lanes have been run by all drivers. Thats it. The driver with the most laps wins
Re: How do oval racing event compensate for lane length?

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Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:04 am
by chris
My 4 lane oval traditionally hosts our opening round and the guys are pretty keen after their Xmas/New Year break so a full turnout is about 14. We run five classes and as Harry said everyone does lane rotation and we do 2 minutes per lane.
Racing starts at 7.00pm and a half-time break for food and raffle a car then back into it. Usually all over by 11.00 and push 'em out the door around midnight when they've finished bench racing.
Chris.
Re: How do oval racing event compensate for lane length?

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Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:13 am
by LAMing
OR...
Run digital w/lane changers. :D
Re: How do oval racing event compensate for lane length?

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Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:01 pm
by BIG E
Re: How do oval racing event compensate for lane length?

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Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:01 pm
by Vintage 1/24
Hey - I've raced on that very track out in the Hamptons on Long Island; that is 'The Beach Oval' owned by a member here!
Actually it is currently listed in the classifieds on this site - and at great price!
Interestingly on this track the top-most (longer) lanes are a little *faster* than the bottom-most (shorter) lanes... Cars routinely run *under* two seconds per lap on this 10' by 20' oval - so this is a fast track! Banked tracks can often even things out across lanes... But yeah rotations is the key.
At South Shore Speedway, also on Long Island, they try to mirror real racing, like you would find on a typical short track bullring. They race heats on the four lane track in four segments - no time limits - just a set number of laps - the best cumulative finish in the four segments wins that heat. Based on finishing order drivers are assigned to consis, e-main, d-main, c-main, b-main etc.
At the end of race night there is one Main Event Winner. Almost every race finishes with all drivers on the lead lap and races are routinely decided by less than a scale car length. I have to say I really like this format and feel I am racing against other drivers and not racing against the track, or the computer, or the clock.
It is kind of like a scale race experience.
Re: How do oval racing event compensate for lane length?

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Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:17 pm
by HomeRacingWorld
BTW...Beers and Brats. Nothing wrong with that. In fact, the whole point of a great track is the FUN you have with good people.
As most know we do not hold organized racing here. Some call it "chasing" not racing...or good old Fun Runnin'.
But we do race in a way. We all build similar cars and when we are on the track the close contact action is all the fun we can ask for.
I think you will discover that people will really enjoy an oval track regardless if you just do beer and brats, or set up the timer.
Re: How do oval racing event compensate for lane length?

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Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:22 pm
by BIG E
10-4 Harry! Fun runnin' is what we do at the North Cedar Raceway here on Long Island every Wednesday night.
You've seen the dozens of pictures Frank (from NY) has posted before he started spending more time in NC than NY. Four T-Jets on a 58 ft. road course, and you could cover 'em all with a (clean) shop rag!
But I like my competition nights, too, be it HO or 1/24 scale stuff. -- Ernie
Re: How do oval racing event compensate for lane length?

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Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:14 am
by parocket
If you look at the track picture you can see the track has staggered starting lines. The staggered starting lines equal out the lap lengths. I have my track staggered also.

Re: How do oval racing event compensate for lane length?

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Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:17 am
by Beach Oval
Yes, That is my track in the top of the post.
If you look at the left lower corner, you can see the starting lines on the lanes, and they are staggered.
We can run a 20 lap segment in less than 2 minutes as long as we aren't having a crash fest.
This track is VERY FAST on a 12 Volt Battery and INSANELY FAST when I use the RIVERGATE Power Supply.
I have a BREAK OUT TIME of 1.50 seconds and it has been hit a few times.
As Vint said, the outside lanes run a very quick lap time, and you can also win on the outside which has been done many times.
Track might be sold and the new one should be here at the end of the month, a GREDING TRI OVAL with a DOG LEG.
Re: How do oval racing event compensate for lane length?

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Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:27 pm
by bill from nh
I've not seen it done, but you could stagger the location of the lap counters to effectively lengthen the lap length of the inside lanes. Staggered starting locations will only lengthen the distances of the first lap. I raced on an Ogilvie 85' tri-oval for several years. We always raced 8 three or four minute heats, so everyone ran all 8 lanes. We didn't find doing it this way required lots of extra time, even with large racing fields.
Forget my idea above, staggered lap counters will only lengthen the first lap too! :think:
Re: How do oval racing event compensate for lane length?

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Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:44 pm
by Vintage 1/24
I thought about the stagger start thing - to truly even out the race lengths it would have to be *extreme*.
Figure the straights are the same, the turns are circular, and the lane spacing is 4 inches which means that (regardless of turn sharpness and regardless of straightaway lengths) starting from the inside lane, each successive lane is 2 feet longer *per lap*!
Since each diameter is larger by 8 inches (4 inches for each side) times Pi gives us about 24 inches or two feet per lane per lap. Thinking about four lanes that would put the outside lane about 6 feet longer per lap - Multiply that by a short race of only ten laps would require a stagger start of 60 feet - 20 laps would be 120 feet!
Staggering when you think about it.
Re: How do oval racing event compensate for lane length?

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Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:11 pm
by Kemtronracer