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Need help with a racing format

Postby btaylor » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:01 am

Looking for some advice on a race we are planning here at the Cherokee point road course.
We have been planning this for a few weeks, but need some thoughts outside our box of drivers. This is what we have so far.
Six hour race,starting at 4:00pm running till 10:00pm
Room lights will be cut back to two lights out of four at 6:30, then all lights off at 8:00pm, using only headlights and the track lights at the re fueling area(pit stop).
This will be a fuel usage endurance type race, with four drivers.
The plan is to have two drivers marshaling, while the other two are driving.
Driving segments being thirty minutes at a time,then switch.
Question here, should the team member not driving, marshal the team car, or other teams car ?which would seem the most fair?
The Driver switch will be made during fuel stops,with the fuel stop setting being a rounded time of best qualifying lap. plus a pre set duration before fueling starts.(usually 2 seconds)
No track calls,unless both cars are de-slotted, and restarts made from the location of the incident.
Team winner decided by most laps made in the allotted time.
Anyone see anything we are missing here? any advice or additions would be greatly appreciated, so we can get the date set and do this!
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Re: Need help with a racing format

Postby HomeRacingWorld » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:15 am

I know some will disagree, but I would have the marshals do the job regardless of what car it is. Just seems to me that it would just make the race itself more enjoyable.
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Re: Need help with a racing format

Postby btaylor » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:29 am

Harry, that was actually suggested by one of our drivers, and i agreed with it myself.
The input from others perspectives is exactly what i am looking for ,Thank you.
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Re: Need help with a racing format

Postby waaytoomuchintothis » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:45 am

Everybody marshals every car, for sure. We tried two other ways and all we succeeded in doing was deciding this is best and no drunkassed spectators with drinks in their hand are allowed within ten feet of the track (yes, not only a spill, but repeated time after time). I can't imagine how he got out of there uninjured.
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Re: Need help with a racing format

Postby btaylor » Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:17 pm

:lol: Stuff happens i guess! I have only had one spill on the oval during a very crowded night with lots of people.
Sometimes an over zealous marshal forgets to remove the Cig from his lips and drops a load of ash on the track,nothing you cant drive through at high speed! :lol:
We just were not sure if the opposing teams marshal would be as quick to put our car back on as apposed to say, there own? and vice versa. Not that i think there would be a problem amongst friends, but thats how tempers get fired up if someone thinks that way. just trying to be as fair as can be,as no plan is perfect.
But i think we should proceed with the all cars marshaled idea myself.
Makes for good racing,and better excuses! :lol:
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Re: Need help with a racing format

Postby RichD » Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:41 pm

If there are only lights in the cars you will be able to see where the cars are, but not the track itself. We do night racing with very subdued lights that cover the whole track. My own track has blue LED Christmas lights on the ceiling that simulate moonlight.
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Re: Need help with a racing format

Postby btaylor » Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:49 pm

Thats a great idea, i had not thought of that. I have done some solo racing under the conditions i described,and it wasnt to bad, but i didnt have to marshal my car either! Might put some thought into your idea. As it stands, i can only knock out the overhead lights one at a time. Thanks, i have time to address that problem.
Glad i posted this, some great help from all of you.
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Re: Need help with a racing format

Postby gonegonzo » Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:08 pm

BOB ,

When we run enduro's all repairs done on the car has to be done while race is on GREEN . Repairs stop on lane changes .

You Have PM .

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Re: Need help with a racing format

Postby RichD » Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:32 am

I was at the 2014 Area 51 24 Hour Endurance Race this past weekend. Area 51 is a 130 foot commercial style five lane track. There are strip type red LEDs in the braking zones, corners and corner exits. The lights themselves cannot be seen directly by the drivers. There is just enough illumination to make out the track surface. There were five man teams. The event was divided into six races. Each race consisted of five 48 minute heats with lane rotations. That works out to 30 heats in all for a total of 24 hours of running. Mostly each team assigned a lane to each driver, so each driver would drive the same lane in all six races. For each heat each team would have one guy driving, one guy marshalling and one guy manning the pits to do tire cleaning, braid cleaning and other maintenance jobs. The other two members of the team were free to goof off as they saw fit. All maintenance to the cars had to be done under green flag conditions. There was a designated pit area. Major repairs had to be done in the garage area, not in the pits. Limited track calls were used for things like riders, cars on the floor or off in front of the drivers. The first two races were run in daylight, the third race was run at dusk with some room lights on, but not near the track, the track lights were not used. The fourth race had all of the room lights off and the track lights on. The cars were required to have working head and tail lights for the dusk and night portions of the race. The last two races were run with the room lights on. The results of each heat were entered into a database which was preprogrammed to figure out the total laps for each team. That was a safeguard in case something went wrong that could wipe out everything up to that point.
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Re: Need help with a racing format

Postby btaylor » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:32 am

I had been following the 24 hr race , VERY cool! The one I had read about in Michigan was the inspiration for our little group to do something similar, but on a much smaller scale. Mine is a two lane track with equal lanes, so it would be a little different.But the overall concept would be the same. We are trying to get the basics down this year and tweak it a little as we go. the repair on green is a great idea to add to our list,thank you!. we have a separate area we can use for repair as well.
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