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I do have 1 of the early Pioneer 18K motors but is there anyplace that still sells it? I can't find it online. I even looked at the motor in my Bengal Charger and it has the P in the middle not on the side.

OK I found a source for the low torque 18K motor not cheap at $23.50 Just noticed the web address. This shop is in New Zeland.
https://www.slotcar.co.nz/pioneer-18k-r ... s?term=129

Anyone know of anyone in the states selling this motor?

Arrold

You could try contacting Pioneer direct - Jules is on this forum he is very helpful he may be able to tell you if they are still available

His screen name on here is Jules :)

Wrong motor, he needs small offset P, non QS.

Pioneer Typhoon first type (FC-130) 18,000 RPM/12v, tested 18,967 RPM/12v
tested 131 gcm/12v, tested 6.2W/12v

Pioneer Typhoon Mk II QS (FC-130) 18,000 RPM/12v, tested 20,194 RPM/12v
tested 160 gcm/12v, tested 8.1W/12v

Arrold, why not just use Hawk?

H&R Racing Hawk Motor I (FC-130) 18,000 RPM/12v; tested 18,900-19,000 RPM/12v
tested 140 gcm/12v, 6.6W/12v

Arrold,

I can find just a few of these older motors. Wait a couple days and I'll get back to you. Just taking a quick break over New Year right now.

Jules
@ Pioneer