How Close Do NSRs and Slot.Its Run On Track?

[pgtr]

I'm not familiar with NSRs - just wondering if they are same/similar to some Slot.Its in componentry (and how they handle on track)?

thanks

[The Old Jaybird]

NSRs are better, but they cost more. NSR motors are more consistent within type/spec. A well-tuned NSR is faster than a well-tuned Slot.It. But Slot.Its offer the best bang for the buck.

TOJ

[Czar]

It is really going to depend on the complexity of the track. In my experience, the NSR motor has a smoother power band, making it easier to drive, and that has to be an advantage on any track.

[mikeinclover]

We ran a class where we ran GT40 any combination of parts but they to be from the brand you are running. That is to say if you ran Slot it you could only use Slot it parts. At the start of the series it was about 50 / 50 by the end of the race there was only one NSR in the field. We only run non-magnet on wood. I prefer Slot it myself because you have more choices in tuning parts, just my opinion.
Mike.

[waaytoomuchintothis]

Whenever this question comes up, it always requires two more questions. One has just been asked. "What does the track look like?" Then there's "Do you describe [fast] as flat out straight speed or lap time?" The answer to what you really want to know is, "It depends on the driver". With my arthritis and my old eyes, I could race an NSR against a really good driver with many years of experience and lose by a huge margin if he was driving an untuned Ninco with bent axles and comedy gears, a Ninco speciality. I didn't tell him at the time, but I ran my fastest car against Kurt (El Supremo), who was running a funky Ninco indestructible Mustang (for beginners). I never had a chance, really. Just fooling around running cars, I could not keep up with him lap after lap, and my car was all NSR under the skin, a joke car I built for fun years ago. No, I didn't tell him. But he is magic with a controller in his hand.

It is much more frequent that a slower car that handles well in the hands of a good driver will win, than a superfast car in the hands of an average driver. This gets at what was said in the previous post by Czar. The NSR is less jumpy, so it feels better to run. The better it feels, the quicker you learn how to get the most from it. But Kurt will beat you ragged running a Scalextric with square tires against you.

To win races, we all have to learn to fix ourselves more than the cars, Grasshopper. The more senior the slotracer, the more he is likely to tell you this kind of thing.

[gascarnut]

It's difficult to compare Slot.it and NSR as there are very few of the same subject for making an apples-to-apples comparison. In the few case where they do make the same cars, here's my experience:

NSR Ford GT40 vs Slot.it GT40: The NSR is faster on my track mainly because it is bigger. Otherwise they are very similar, and with the same tires on each there is little to choose, apart from the fact that the NSR is substantially more expensive. I would expect similar results when comparing any of the NSR classic cars (GT40, Mk4, Porsche 917, P68) with the Slot.it classic sidewinders (Ferrari 312PB, Alfa 33, Chaparral, GT40, M8B). The jury is out still on the Matra MS670, no testing done yet.

Audi R18: Here the Slot.it car beats the NSR hands down because the Slot.it car is an anglewinder as opposed to the NSR inline.

As for the NSR GT cars (Corvettes, Porsche997, Aston MArtin, Audi R8), I guess they could be compared with the Slot.it LMP and modern GT cars, and it would be a toss-up over a full 3 minute heat on my track, with the NSRs able to set much faster individual lap times, but the Slot.its being more drveable over the full duration. The NSR GT cars have too much motor for most home tracks, not that I am going to change them out, though, it's way too much fun dealing with that amount of horsepower!

[chappy]

These ( loaded) questions lol
come along from time to time , and it is always the same as waaytomuch stated, it raises more questions. Both Slot it and NSR , are great cars out of the box, then with a little fine tuning they become even better. How you drive them is the most important factor though. NSR handles differently to Slot it.
This is based on factors such as weight , balance , motor , motor orientation, and even controller or settings. Then the track itself , Wood, Plastic, length, fast, or technical. You get the idea, a lot of factors come into play.
As Dennis has said above there are comparisons he has done and come to conclusions based on his tests. He is right on target, especially about the Audi R18.
If you are running a class of one manufacturer, no issues. If you are running a class with optional manufactures , it is usuall somewhat open to other aftermarket pieces.
I have seen NSRs using Sloting plus parts and Slot it using ScaleAuto parts.
So I guess what I am saying in the long run is that there is no. One right answer, it all depends on other factors, and what you are trying to achieve.
I think Waaytoomuch and Dennis have given you the right advice, thenrest is up to you and your bank account.
All the best
Bob

[cgingras]

I personally prefer Slot.it cars to NSR cars. They're less expensive, you have access to a HUGE inventory of tuning parts, the motor power is usually more manageable on a smaller home track, I hate those Air System wheels and using NSR tires is like a lottery (you have to buy 5 pairs to make sure you get 4 good pairs). Also, for those who like realism on their cars, NSR sometimes takes some liberty on that front to make a car run better. Slot.it modifies the chassis or the parts inside the car to make sure the car looks good on the outside.

That being said, NSR chassis are usually more robust than Slot.it chassis, which can sometimes require some flattening if you want perfection.

But I have racing buddies who can do wonders with the NSR cars and when they do, running them on a wood track is like walking on a cloud. I'm just not one of those people who can tune a NSR car well. I'm doing OK with Slot.it parts.

[Modlerbob]

From my experience I would say it depends on the driver more than anything else.

[Florida_Slotter]

"How Close Do NSRs and Slot.Its Run On Track?"

About the only accurate way I can think of to answer your question is, "That depends on your lane spacing!"

On a serious side, which has already been stated, but I will do it one more time, is depending on the type of track, the skill of the driver, how well the tuner did on the car and other factors, there are times when a Slot.It can beat an NSR and there are times when an NSR can beat a Slot.It.

The question is one that just opens itself up to interpretation and can be answered in oh so many ways.

I hope this helps.

[Ember]

I find the components are of a similar quality and the NSR bodies are more robust.

NSR and Slot.it GT40s are quite well matched on my little track for performance and handling (sans-magnet on painted plastic) but the Slot.it feels fragile.

[SuperSlab]

[Florida_Slotter]

SuperSlab,

If nothing else, your data showed something I don't anyone else has taken into consideration. That is the production differences between cars. You have one NSR Porsche 917 that will cut a 7.333 second lap while another NSR Porsche 917 will only run 7.503. A difference of .17 seconds. While that seems insignificant, it does show a huge difference in the performance potential of both cars.

It would be interesting to swap the motor pod with motor, rear axle, wheels, tires and gears between the two cars just to see if that makes a difference.

I would suspect motor output. But that is just a guess.

[Ember]

Seems where both companies make the same model it is the NSR that comes out on top. But there's no data on motor comparison or configuration for each on that list.

Really it's a case of 6 of one vs 1/2 dozen of the other. Pick the model that you like from the manufacturer you like and have fun with it. They are suitable to run against each other if you so desire.

[SuperSlab]