ProNoMag Speedtest 2015 - October 30, 2015

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ProNoMag Speedtest 2015 - October 30, 2015

Postby pfuetze » Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:57 am

ProNoMag Speedtest 2015 - small proxy race on a wood track

Date: October 30, 2015
number of cars per entrant: max. 1
The track: app. 78ft. 3 lane wood track, latex paint, copper tape for the rails - magnets have no effect
the race: race will be run in lane 1, 25 laps practice, 25 laps race, the slowest 5 times will be deleted
the power supply: each lane has a seperate adjustable powersupply, 1.25 to 19V @ 3 Amp available
the timing: IR light bridge and laptimer 2000
the controllers: available controllers: 90/75/60 ohm parma eco, 45/35/25 Parma eco, 25/18/13 parma eco, 15/11/8 parma eco, i will choose the controller where the car is driveable as its best during the practice laps.
entry fee: 15 Euro (is used for return shipping of car)

Rules:
1) car must be approximately 1/43rd
2) max. width 50.8mm
3) no fluid may leak out, no grease, oil or braid juice may pollute the track, no tire glue or similar
4) teams may ask for a special voltage where the car should be run.
the standard racing voltage depends on the motor. I will run all cars @ 12V, SCX and Carrera motors @15V, G9330 & Fyrebox@9V, Kyosho@16V, KyoshoX@13V.
5) car must have a body that looks like a car, race look prefered, but not necessary
6) no silicone tires, rubber and PU are fine
7) no pin guides (like carrera or artin)
8) all tires have to touch the track
9) cars must run 20 qualitfication laps on lane 1 prior to the race. Cars must get a fastest lap in this heat under 13 seconds to qualify for the race. Please don´t worry about this rules, stock SCX or Kyosho cars can do it easily. Only the fastest 20 cars from the qualifying will run the race. qualifying times will be posted with the race times.

a small speedtest for the "big" race in February, only one car per entrant, running only in lane 1.
same coverage and reports as usual (hopefully) :)

list of prizes by now:
tbd
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have fun, Peter
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Re: ProNoMag Speedtest 2015 - October 30, 2015

Postby pfuetze » Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:17 am

CarGo Customs will send these as prices - a great thanks to Carsten!

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Re: ProNoMag Speedtest 2015 - October 30, 2015

Postby pfuetze » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:03 am

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track got cleaned and the copper is shiny again.
Minis immediately took the opportunity to make some laps. Lost diffussors and during a serious crash, the driver of the blue Mini came loose. Made Mr. Bruno Blue thinking about safety ...
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Re: ProNoMag Speedtest 2015 - October 30, 2015

Postby pfuetze » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:42 pm

the Lancia sneaked on the track to get some track time ...

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Dan´s Porsche got new tires, glued on, sanded. removed slop in front axle, all 4 wheels now touching the track. coated the fronts with CA. Now it´s a good running and nice looking Porsche :D

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old tires removed (the pile of black material in the front of the picture), new tires glued on, new fire extinguishers and better seat belts for the driver :D

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drivers are checking out the new printed wheel insert on the red Mini, the blue Mini feels left out ....

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also the 2nd entrant, coming all the way from Norway, a very nice Benz:

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Re: ProNoMag Speedtest 2015 - October 30, 2015

Postby TuscoTodd » Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:44 pm

Man! those are some great looking 1/43 scale cars!
Kudos!
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Re: ProNoMag Speedtest 2015 - October 30, 2015

Postby pfuetze » Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:16 am

Thanks Todd!

the trophy arrived yesterday:

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along with the cars from Carsten and Julian ...

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and the Mini ? crashed again ... at least it did not loose any parts (this time) ;)

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Re: ProNoMag Speedtest 2015 - October 30, 2015

Postby pfuetze » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:36 pm

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and another entrant arrived today :D

everyone already bored with these pics?
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Re: ProNoMag Speedtest 2015 - October 30, 2015 - result are

Postby pfuetze » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:43 pm

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Welcome to the ProNoMag Speedtest 2015!
This is a small proxy race on the Desmo, a 24m 1/43rd wood track.
over the last weeks the entrants have been arriving and already testing their cars. One car did not make it in time, a Lancia from Team Britain. But let´s start with the cars that are here:

Betz - Alfa
14V, 45 ohm
it´s like driving a car with a broken turbo that comes into live when he likes it. too much play in the axles, way too much. hard to keep on the track.
the body looks fantastic so!
while driving you always get the impression that there is much in this car, but somehow hidden. With a little work a really nice car.
especially hard to controll in the slow part of the desmo. Put a shim under the guide to get it deeper in the slot, helped a little.

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Mario - Nascar
15V, 90ohm
a drop of oil on the axles to help a little. guide is sitting to high in the chassis, the braids could help a little cars, too. again too much play in the rear axle. Tires not glued, but sanded quite good. stays on the track, but in the tight corners shows a clear tendency to jump out of the slot.
training session went quite well, even got a 10.371 on the counter. In lap 10 of the race getting slower and slower. checked and checked again, but could not find a reason. Motor dying / overheating - temperature felt normal ...
got potential!

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Dan - BARC Porsche
9.4V 35ohm
the Puddle Racing Team performed a little tuning on the Porsche - a pair of CarGo High Grip tires, slop removed in the front axle, getting all tires on the track, glueing tires, coating fronts ...
the resin casted chassis works good, only the motor position in not in my favour, angled upwards, long original DSlot pinion - potential for improvement.
But in the end the Porsche is a nice handling, great looking car on the track, with a good balance of power and speed :D
only one deslot during the race - talk about stable, even if he´s waggling his tail out of every corner :D

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Carsten - Cuda
10V 25ohm
a seriously smooth and quick, very nice to look at. But a little too much weight inside did not help cornering in the tight corners, so it really liked to deslot in broken guides corner. Good thing the race officials did not look against the light at the left front tire - they could have spotted a little too much light and no contact at all ;)
very nice to drive :)

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Tilo - Benz
11V 45ohm
way too much torque in this 13D powered car. very tough chassis, a little sound from gears and resonation. fixed the wing only for the race ;)
i can´t believe how much difference there is in handling with this little wing fixed or not. it changes the car for good, for real good, if the wing is attached. it becomes more stable, especially while braking and that big motor is breaking hard. very stable to drive, only one deslot.
And the car is soooo nice to look at! Really nice work there! Would be the winner of the concours de elegance for sure!

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Julian - DTM
11V 45ohm
SMC powered - very good to drive, only the weight of this metall chassis doesn´t help corner speed.
But in the end, it´s a really good driving car with much speed. good balanced and nice to drive.

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Peter - Mini
9.5V - 45ohm
and last on the track - the Mini. lightweight, it´s all about grip and curvespeed. sometimes a little tricky, but always fun and fast. how fast this little car can go into the corner, still braking and immediately switches to full power is great. good balance between power and speed, the H0 box motor offers more than enough for the Mini.

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And now the race is run, no major faults, no damage to cars, scenery or drivers has happened, quite unusual. It has been real fun, thanks for letting me drive your cars, gentlemen!

BUT who was the fastest?
here is the answer to the long awaited question:

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for the very interested ones - the table with the lap times:

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It has been a great race!

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Re: ProNoMag Speedtest 2015 - October 30, 2015

Postby pfuetze » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:47 am

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Welcome to the ProNoMag Speedtest 2015!
This is a small proxy race on the Desmo, a 24m 1/43rd wood track.
over the last weeks the entrants have been arriving and already testing their cars. One car did not make it in time, a Lancia from Team Britain. But let´s start with the cars that are here:

Betz - Alfa
14V, 45 ohm
it´s like driving a car with a broken turbo that comes into live when he likes it. too much play in the axles, way too much. hard to keep on the track.
the body looks fantastic so!
while driving you always get the impression that there is much in this car, but somehow hidden. With a little work a really nice car.
especially hard to controll in the slow part of the desmo. Put a shim under the guide to get it deeper in the slot, helped a little.

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Mario - Nascar
15V, 90ohm
a drop of oil on the axles to help a little. guide is sitting to high in the chassis, the braids could help a little cars, too. again too much play in the rear axle. Tires not glued, but sanded quite good. stays on the track, but in the tight corners shows a clear tendency to jump out of the slot.
training session went quite well, even got a 10.371 on the counter. In lap 10 of the race getting slower and slower. checked and checked again, but could not find a reason. Motor dying / overheating - temperature felt normal ...
got potential!

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Dan - BARC Porsche
9.4V 35ohm
the Puddle Racing Team performed a little tuning on the Porsche - a pair of CarGo High Grip tires, slop removed in the front axle, getting all tires on the track, glueing tires, coating fronts ...
the resin casted chassis works good, only the motor position in not in my favour, angled upwards, long original DSlot pinion - potential for improvement.
But in the end the Porsche is a nice handling, great looking car on the track, with a good balance of power and speed :D
only one deslot during the race - talk about stable, even if he´s waggling his tail out of every corner :D

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Carsten - Cuda
10V 25ohm
a seriously smooth and quick, very nice to look at. But a little too much weight inside did not help cornering in the tight corners, so it really liked to deslot in broken guides corner. Good thing the race officials did not look against the light at the left front tire - they could have spotted a little too much light and no contact at all ;)
very nice to drive :)

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Tilo - Benz
11V 45ohm
way too much torque in this 13D powered car. very tough chassis, a little sound from gears and resonation. fixed the wing only for the race ;)
i can´t believe how much difference there is in handling with this little wing fixed or not. it changes the car for good, for real good, if the wing is attached. it becomes more stable, especially while braking and that big motor is breaking hard. very stable to drive, only one deslot.
And the car is soooo nice to look at! Really nice work there! Would be the winner of the concours de elegance for sure!

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Julian - DTM
11V 45ohm
SMC powered - very good to drive, only the weight of this metall chassis doesn´t help corner speed.
But in the end, it´s a really good driving car with much speed. good balanced and nice to drive.

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Peter - Mini
9.5V - 45ohm
and last on the track - the Mini. lightweight, it´s all about grip and curvespeed. sometimes a little tricky, but always fun and fast. how fast this little car can go into the corner, still braking and immediately switches to full power is great. good balance between power and speed, the H0 box motor offers more than enough for the Mini.

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And now the race is run, no major faults, no damage to cars, scenery or drivers has happened, quite unusual. It has been real fun, thanks for letting me drive your cars, gentlemen!

BUT who was the fastest?
here is the answer to the long awaited question:

for the very interested ones - the table with the lap times:

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It has been a great race!

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Re: ProNoMag Speedtest 2015 - October 30, 2015

Postby cyclone60 » Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:19 pm

Congrats to all the participants ! :music-rockout: :text-coolphotos:
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Re: ProNoMag Speedtest 2015 - October 30, 2015

Postby pfuetze » Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:08 pm

Lloyd - BoN Lancia
15V 35ohm
The Lancia is a very nice looking car, the steering really adds to the looks when the car is parked in a corner. Out on the track, even at slow speeds, i´m not able to see the steering front wheels. Sadly, the motor cables are a little stuck between the steering mechanism and the front hood, hindering the free movement of the guide and therefore blocking steering itself just a little. In summary, the transitions are not as smooth as they should be. Also the right front wheel is stuck, not rotating free. Also the Lancia is not sitting totally square on the track, it´s slightly tipping, but all 4 wheels rest on the track.I do not know what tires Lloyd is using, but i want them, too! They offer great grip on the Desmo. And this great grip is showing up all those tiny imperfections of the Lancia in a hammer driven way. Sometimes the Lancia is really jumping, but it stays in the slot. With a little work, this Lancia could be a seriously fast car!
The handling is good and the balance of speed/torque/breaking is very nice.
It took about 50 laps to get accustomed with the Lancia, during this time it sounded "like a bag of nails" (original quote from Lloyd!). After getting a good feeling for the Lancia, i decided to start the race session. After one lap, the Lancia suddenly changed it´s sound. It got quieter by 2 levels, still a little snarling, but a normal level. Also the driving changed very suddenly, like something broke free inside the car. It also got smoother to drive, the braking a little less agressive, accelaration more smooth. Better to drive :D
And with this, the lap times began ticking down. Very nice.
I hope to meet this Lancia again, some of those imperfections ironed out - i know it will be a great car :D

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results will be updated tomorrow ...
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