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2019 Formula 1 Proxy Race - Rules and Registration

Re: 2019 Formula 1 Proxy Race - Rules and Registration

Postby Ky.Slot Racer » Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:46 am

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Re: 2019 Formula 1 Proxy Race - Rules and Registration

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Re: 2019 Formula 1 Proxy Race - Rules and Registration

Postby Mark » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:03 am

Allan, I'm in! I've always wanted to build a modern open-wheeler. I'll PayPal you the entry fee soon.

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Re: 2019 Formula 1 Proxy Race - Rules and Registration

Postby Modernslots » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:30 am

Allen,
Put me in if there is still room for an entry. I'll Pay Pal if there's a spot. Thanks.
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Re: 2019 Formula 1 Proxy Race - Rules and Registration

Postby steeveew » Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:32 pm

Allan, I will be running a Williams #10



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Re: 2019 Formula 1 Proxy Race - Rules and Registration

Postby Audi1 » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:21 pm

I'm assuming that Rob Fowler is Modernslots……..if he's not then someone else just paid for your Registration...…………… :o

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Re: 2019 Formula 1 Proxy Race - Rules and Registration

Postby chrisguyw » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:19 pm

Hi Allan, The rules indicate that the front tires are to be no wider than 8mm..............I have just measured 4 new Scaley F1 cars still in the box ( 2005 McLaren MP416, 2007 Ferrari, 2010 McLaren MP421, and the 2013 Lotus E21) all of which have very scale looking width front tires, and , are well detailed.
None of the stock tires on these cars come close to the 8mm proposed width, with the tires ranging between 10.6 to 11.2 at the tire bulge.
These cars are al pre the 2016 season when the tires on the 1:1 cars actually became wider.....I have not measured a "new: scaley F1 front tire as of yet, but, if even remotely to scale, they will be no narrower than 11.2mm
Does it seem wise to have to hack perfectly good (and to scale) front tires down by 3mm??

As well I did not notice a minimum front tire width ??

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Re: 2019 Formula 1 Proxy Race - Rules and Registration

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Re: 2019 Formula 1 Proxy Race - Rules and Registration

Postby Audi1 » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:30 pm

I just measured the front on 3 Scaley F1 cars from different years; a 2013 Ferrari, a 2014 Mercedes and a 2017 Williams. The front tires ranged in width from 10.5mm (Mercedes) to 11.2mm (Ferrari) and 11.5mm (Williams). In addition to that, the front wheels on each of the cars were 10mm or greater. Frankly, my 14x8 wheel Rule was driven by what I've used before on F1 cars and that's been driven by what has been available from CBDesign.

I'm in favor of scale realism in 1/32 slot cars, so lets say that the front tires can be no less than 10mm and no more than 12mm in width. Let's also say that the front wheels can be no less than 8mm and no more than 11mm in width. That would cover the spread on the 3 cars that I just measured.

If there are Scaley F1 cars that racers want to enter and if the stock dimensions of those cars are outside of the proposed new Rules for front tires and wheels, then I would tend to handle them on a on-off basis. I don't think that we can make a general scale determination with regards to the front wheels and tires that is significantly different than what was supplied in the stock Scaley F1 car.

The intent here is to prevent the use of oversized tires and over-wide wheel tracks while, at the same time, supporting the general concept of scale.

Let me know what you think.

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Re: 2019 Formula 1 Proxy Race - Rules and Registration

Postby chrisguyw » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:53 pm

Allan, I called a few folks in our club, and no one has a 2005+ model year Scaley F1 car with front tires less than 10.6mm.......the narrowest seems to be the 2005 McLaren MP416 at 10.6mm (incl. tire bulge)...........so, why not keep it simple and say a minimum of 10.5mm(incl. tire bulge). for the front tire.

Allowing an 11 something mm width front tire to be reduced to 8mm is more than a 25% reduction, it is not to scale, nor should an entrant have to ruin a perfectly good pair of good looking, scale front tires, in order to be competitive.

It is after all a modern day F1 series.......no harm in having it look like one ;)

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PS To keep things really simple. you could mandate that the cars should compete with their stock front wheels and tires (glued and trued)..........this would provide the most scale looking front ends, would be the same for everybody, and would keep cost down.
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Re: 2019 Formula 1 Proxy Race - Rules and Registration

Postby chappy » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:22 pm

I just measured the new scaley red57 Bills Bank
Rear tires 12.6
Front tires 11.6
Rear track stock pushed in is 60.96
The orange Alonso is
Rear tires 12.21
Front tires11.48
Rear track stock pushed in 61.55
New Massa Williams
Rear tires 12.18
Front tires 11.17
Rear track 60.57
Ferrari F2004
Rear tires 11.23
Front tires10.74
Rear track 57.01

The all white car has front tires of 12.42 otherwise is within the othe measuremenst above
So overall on 5 measured cars here are the maximums i measured
Rear tires 12.6 Red #57
Front tires 12.42 All white car
Rear track 61.55 orange Alonso car.

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Re: 2019 Formula 1 Proxy Race - Rules and Registration

Postby chappy » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:51 am

Moring Allan, i will be running a Honda, and would like number 12 instead of 11
Thanks ffor all the work you are doing to set this up. It is one of the most complicated classes i can remember. Most of it caused by F1 in 1:1 who seemed to change things yearly and of course albeit a year behind, so did scalextric.
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Re: 2019 Formula 1 Proxy Race - Rules and Registration

Postby charley » Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:49 pm

Please enter me. Car/number TBD very soon.

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Re: 2019 Formula 1 Proxy Race - Rules and Registration

Postby arroldn » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:14 pm

I'm in will need to get a late model car however. Haven't bought any of these since they would just sit in a box.
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Re: 2019 Formula 1 Proxy Race - Rules and Registration

Postby Audi1 » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:52 pm

OK Charley and Arrold, I've added you both to the Registration list at the bottom of post #1, page 1.

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